
Is it worth it monetarily to write a book?
I am not so sure nowadays. What is selling now in non-fiction? Politics, politics, and more politics. Anything to do with going green and the current economic crisis is hot right now.
Otherwise...books about diets and the metaphysical usually do well. Write a book about how an angel told you how to lose weight and get rich in this economy...best seller I'm telling you.
I got a book out of the library...one of the schmaltzy ones about publishing...you know...filled with secrets...secrets I tell you! The book is called Publishing Confidential: The Insider's Guide to What it Really Takes to Land a Nonfiction Book Deal by Paul B. Brown.
The author says things that are commonly known such as the fact that publishers are not the most skilled at marketing books. In the end you will have to be the one to bear most of the responsibility for being both a writer and the marketer of your book.
He also talks about contracts and negotiation. I was terribly naive about contracts and still am to some extent. It is good to slow down, take a deep breath, and don't sign something until you truly understand what you are signing. There is always room for negotiation. And when and if I see another contract in my lifetime I will heed my own advice!
On the subject of money...I have found out the hard way that if it isn't in writing...you are screwed. Assume nothing unless you have it in writing. I also found out that if you are a mere contributor to a book, assume there will be no money coming to you unless you were smart enough to have an amount written in your contract. I have a relative who writes for a living and she said she had to stop writing chapters for other people's books because there was no money in it. In the end the editor gets both the money and the credit. If you are a novice writer like me, however, your contribution can be a foot in the door for other projects and work.
Now let's look at some of the advice given in this book about how it works when you are the author of a whole book being published. Some authors get money up front, Brown says. I wonder how many nowadays.
He says that the best you can hope for is half the money up front when you sign the contract and the other half when the publisher accepts the manuscript...that they have read it, are hapy with it...it is ready to go.
Specifically he says:
"Some contracts say you get half on signing and the other half on publication-and remember that it can take a minimum of nine months from the time you turn in the manuscript in until the book is published. In that case it would be twenty-one months )twelves months to write the book, plus another nine months to wait) until you got your money.
And that is a better deal than the fairly typical offer of one-third on signing, one-third on acceptance, and one-third on publication. And it is certainly better than what is becoming all the rage among publishers (especially if they pay a lt of money up front): one-fifth on signing, one-fifth on acceptance of half the manuscript, one fifth on the entire book, one fifth on publication, and the final fifth six months after publication."
He ends with...the question...do you still want to write books?
That is...even if you do get a publisher to want to put your book out there in the first place!
I think it is extremely rare for anyone to make a whole lotta money writing books. I want to write books for the purpose of helping others, because I have books in me that just need to be written, and for the exposure... hopefully leading to other more lucrative writing jobs. I will not be naive to think that I will make much money writing a book. Motivation is important...you have to know why you are writing.
Here are my questions for you...what has been your experience with signing contracts for written work? Do you believe one can make money by writing books or are there better paying jobs for writers?
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I believe very few writers can make a living writing. It is a passion, which may only be rewarding in the aesthetic sense. It does seem, as you say, self-help books involving the paranormal would be good sellers. :)
There is no money in writing right now.
Mr. King ruined it for everyone who writes stories shorter than ten thousand pages...
Bicycle season is coming to an end so I'll back at the computer again as the cold days come upon us.
any $$$ i made from my writing was part of my salary, and i was paid very well, as writer/editor...
one 'help' book you may want: the first five pages, by noah lukeman
the other thing one needs is either a good editor, good agent, or both
and go by what bernard sez, too....
You pose good questions, especially in this econony. There are definitely better paying jobs out there for writers...sigh...technical writing, journalism, copywriter. But, would we like doing that kind of writing full-time?
Hm. No coffee this morning, so my thoughts are tripping over themselves like the Three Stooges trying to remodel a kitchen.
It's been my experience that even the sternest language written into a contract doesn't always help.
1)Publishing (just like theater, galleries, etc.) is full of hopeless optimists with big dreams, blind to the uncertain rewards. And I'm talking about what are supposed to be the 'business people'.
For a couple-three years there, I saw small houses open, pay me a little of what was owed and fold, often without publishing a thing. Early on, threats and noises were made. Turns out, collecting from a defunct company with no assets is hard, especially when you're waaaaay down the dollars-owed totem pole.
Also,
2) Even staying in business, publishers don't always pay. At least, not the full amount. And if you *do* get shafted, you get a chance to find out how draining a lawsuit can be to a nickel-and-dime freelancer. And there's still no guarantee the lawsuit goes in your favor.
I ended up couch-surfing and riding the bus before I quit trusting contracts and chasing 'money owed'.
Oh, and money. Screenwriting.
More bullsh*t, longer odds maybe, but better money. Definitely.
If you figure my time, all the money I've made from writing fiction and poetry wouldn't buy me squat. I've made more from non-fiction, but largely because it is also part of my job.
I would have to agree with the other posters.
Even though I'm going the solo route, I definitely feel that I'm not going to make a ton of money doing this. If I wind up with the equivelant of half my bi-weekly check from my primary job, I will be esctatic.
More for the reward (ha!) of sharing the stories I got with the general public, that for the reward of the almighty dollar.
But any dollars thrown my way will be a good thing too.
In the old days (like from the 1880's to 1940's), when a girl came home with her new boyfriend and her parents asked his occupation, more doors slammed as they beat a fast exit. Because he would puff up his chest and proudly respond "I'm going to be a writer."
Daughters were urged to find a man who could be "steadily employed."
Sidney Sheldon is a case in point. Get his autobiography out of the library "The Other Side of Me." He had every lucky break anyone could get and he never finished high school.
My uncle was Tom Fox who wrote a column for a local newspaper. When his Jewish bride's family found out what he did for a living, they sat shiva for her. No kidding! Although he managed to be syndicated in many newspapers, that didn't happen until 25 years after he was a stringer for small newspapers. But he made money as a columnist and finally retired.
Trust me, I've been writing for over 40 years, and I am telling you, there is NO MONEY in writing unless you are Jackie Collins (or her sister), Stephen King, Tom Fox, Hemingway or Socrates.
They are the only genre's that keep on ticking over time.
Good luck and don't sign anything.
Anne
The best advice I ever got was from my creative writing teacher and mentor. "Get a day job"
I have had some success writing but not made much money.
I hear the way to go is POD but have been advised against it. I've edited a book that was POD and made more money as editor than the writer did.
Great post and comments. I worked at Algonquin Books "of Chapel Hill" in the 80s and it seemed that the most any author got from any one book was in the single digit thousands. But some were offered (and took) relatively light-load teaching jobs, and some got speaker's fees.
So publishing books the traditional way was mostly only one arrow in the self-marketing quiver.
My only "real" contract was great. I wrote a series of comics for a now-defunct publisher...he paid me (well) upfront for three issues and only published two, so I did fine...but the pubber was also a good friend. There aren't many of those in publishing.
My bad experiences in music rip-offs, as a band and as as a sound tech, could fill a book...hmmm. (I also lost a lot of weight trying to make a living with my guitar)
I have never signed a contract but I have contributed parts to a book. It's true I made no money but one of my life goals was to get published so that's cool. I have been working on a memoir but I got kind of stuck. We'll see if it ever reaches the light (Lol).
This is a helpful post about a dream-puncturing subject. My only experience with a contract was a good one - though I churned over the book during years of disastrous depression and never got it into coherent shape. But I've been friends with pro writers who have published good books of literary quality for years and years without ever earning more than enough to barely keep going. Publishers take books for some reason that they will never market. Why bother with that? If you have to market on your own, why not publish on your own - these days that is a practical alternative rather than a vanity press thing. Or get together with a group of fellow writers and develop your own press. The odds couldn't be any worse for those alternatives than for conventional publishing.
Oh, I just left this long response filled with how you could make money from writing and it got wiped out because I hadn't signed in to wordpress before I pressed send.
What a teaser, I am. But, seriously, it was encouraging, at least. Probably shouldn't take my advice anyway, as I have gone over to the 'faux" world as of tomorrow's blog entry.
You have a subject. You have talent. You have a computer. You are already writing for some web magazines. Keep on, keeping on. Think about widening the circle with speaking (I know, I know) but this is how some who self publish sell their books!
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